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The Gift Of Presence, The Perils of Advice

  • drjunedarling1
  • Aug 31
  • 7 min read

"Never give advice unless asked. The wise won't need it, the fool won't heed it." German proverb


When someone gives me advice after I have shared a concern or offered a vulnerability, frankly, I want to snuff them out... just for an instant. Then I think all sorts of ungenerous thoughts about how they don't know what they are talking about. We remind ourselves in our weekly good life and compassion circle not go give advice unless it is specifically requested.


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Does that stop me from wanting to give advice to them at a later date? Not a chance. Seems we humans just can't contain ourselves when it comes to giving our unsolicited advice.


Recently some friends and I were having lunch, blurting out our opinions on what the younger generation should do in their various predicaments.


We forlornly shook our heads. Why can't they see that we're right? One finally said, "Our kids don't want our advice."


Well, I'm pretty sure our kids not only do not want our unsolicited advice, but would love to give us some of their advice. Get rid of that old food in the refrigerator. Move to a smaller place. Go keto. Boo. Even if we think they might be right, something rises up inside us when others give us unsolicited advice.


We try to remind ourselves of that in our weekly compassion circle. Still, I sense some of us are just dying to "help" out each other with a solution to their problem. It's very hard to see that the best help is usually pretty simple. Our quiet presence. And might I just interject here that we'd be creating a bunch of "learned helpless" folks instead of empowering each other if we always expected someone else to have the solution to our problems.


One of the best essays I have run into and return to to when I need a dose of advice on not giving advice that I actually want, is this essay by a wonderfully wise and sometimes funny guru, now 86, Parker Palmer. I found it again at the On Being website. I offer it here to you and to me... may we take it to heart.


When my mother went into a nursing home not long before she died, my wife and I were told that, for a modest increase in the monthly fee, the staff would provide a few extra services to improve her quality of life. We gladly paid, grateful that we could afford it.


Now in our mid-seventies, my wife and I have no imminent need for assisted living or nursing care. But the house we live in is, by definition, a two-person residential facility for the aging. Here at what we fondly call The Home, it’s not uncommon for one of us to try “improve” the other’s quality of life by offering “extra services.” Unfortunately, those services often take the form of advice.

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A few years ago, my wife gave me some advice that struck me as — how shall I say? — superfluous. Remembering our experience with my mother, I said, “Could I pay a little less this month?” To this day, that line gives us a chance to laugh instead of getting defensive when one of us attempts, as both of us do now and then, to give the other unsolicited and unwanted “help.”


Advice-giving comes naturally to our species, and is mostly done with good intent. But in my experience, the driver behind a lot of advice has as much to do with self-interest as interest in the other’s needs — and some advice can end up doing more harm than good.


Last week I got a call from a man who’d recently been diagnosed with terminal cancer. He’d emailed his bad news to a few family members and friends, one of whom had come over right away. “How are you feeling?” his friend asked. “Well, as I said in my email, I’m feeling amazingly at peace with all this. I’m not worried about what lies ahead.”


The friend replied, “Look, you need to get a second opinion. At the same time, you should start exploring complementary medicine. You should also sign up for a meditation program, and I know a good book that can get you started down that path.”


I asked my caller how that response had made him feel. “I’m sure my friend meant well,” he said, “but his advice left me less at peace.”

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I told him I’d have felt the same way, and offered this image: Imagine that I need support with a serious problem, when along comes a guy with advanced CPR certification. He’s so eager to show off his skills that he isn’t able to hear my true need. Instead, he starts administering chest compressions and “rescue breathing,” even though I’m perfectly able to breathe for myself. Now I have another big problem as I try to fight off the “helper” who’s smothering me.


I asked my caller how he would have felt if his friend had simply said, “How great that you’re at peace! Tell me more.” “That would have been wonderful,” he replied. “But everyone I talked to had advice for me, including a relative who said I needed to join her church before it was too late.”


I asked how he’d been feeling recently — he said he’d been feeling afraid. “Do you want to talk about your fear?”, I asked. He talked while I listened and asked a few more questions. When we were done, he told me that some measure of peace had returned. It was a peace that had come from within him, not from anything I’d said. I’d simply helped clear some rubble that blocked his access to his own soul.


My misgivings about advice began with my first experience of clinical depression thirty-five years ago. The people who tried to support me had good intentions. But, for the most part, what they did left me feeling more depressed.

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Some went for the nature cure: “Why don’t you get outside and enjoy the sunshine and fresh air? Everything is blooming and it’s such a beautiful day!” When you’re depressed, you know intellectually that it’s beautiful out there. But you can’t feel a bit of that beauty because your feelings are dead — and being reminded of that gap is depressing.


Other would-be helpers tried to spruce up my self-image: “Why so down on yourself? You’ve helped so many people.” But when you’re depressed, the only voice you can hear is one that tells you that you’re a worthless fraud. Those compliments deepened my depression by making me feel that I’d defrauded yet another person: “If he knew what a worm I am, he’d never speak to me again.”


Here’s the deal. The human soul doesn’t want to be advised or fixed or saved. It simply wants to be witnessed — to be seen, heard and companioned exactly as it is. When we make that kind of deep bow to the soul of a suffering person, our respect reinforces the soul’s healing resources, the only resources that can help the sufferer make it through.


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Aye, there’s the rub. Many of us “helper” types are as much or more concerned with being seen as good helpers as we are with serving the soul-deep needs of the person who needs help. Witnessing and companioning take time and patience, which we often lack — especially when we’re in the presence of suffering so painful we can barely stand to be there, as if we were in danger of catching a contagious disease. We want to apply our “fix,” then cut and run, figuring we’ve done the best we can to “save” the other person.


During my depression, there was one friend who truly helped. With my permission, Bill came to my house every day around 4:00 PM, sat me down in an easy chair, and massaged my feet. He rarely said a word. But somehow he found the one place in my body where I could feel a sense of connection with another person, relieving my awful sense of isolation while bearing silent witness to my condition.


By offering me this quiet companionship for a couple of months, day in and day out, Bill helped save my life. Unafraid to accompany me in my suffering, he made me less afraid of myself. He was present — simply and fully present — in the same way one needs to be at the bedside of a dying person.

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It’s at such a bedside where we finally learn that we have no “fix” or “save” to offer those who suffer deeply. And yet, we have something better: our gift of self in the form of personal presence and attention, the kind that invites the other’s soul to show up. As Mary Oliver has written:


“This is the first, the wildest and the wisest thing I know: that the soul exists and is built entirely out of attentiveness.”


I leave you with two pieces of advice — a flagrant self-contradiction for which my only defense is Emerson’s dictum that “consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” (1) Don’t give advice, unless someone insists. Instead, be fully present, listen deeply, and ask the kind of questions that give the other a chance to express more of his or her own truth, whatever it may be. (2) If you find yourself receiving unwanted advice from someone close to you, smile and ask politely if you can pay a little less this month.

 

Parker J. Palmer is a teacher, author, and founder and senior partner emeritus of the Center for Courage & Renewal. His many books include Healing the Heart of DemocracyLet Your Life Speak, and On the Brink of Everything. He’s also a contributor to the book, Anchored in the Current: Discovering Howard Thurman as Educator, Activist, Guide, and Prophet.



And, on an absolutely unrelated topic - the most uplifting scene I saw in the last week. Happened at our community meal.

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One of the jokers in the back is chiding, Pat, from Midvalley Baptists, "What are taking money from kids now? The young boy had spent the latter part of the evening asking how to help with clean up, which he and his brothers did. Then he said, "Wait, I have money I want to give." He ran out to this family's car and grabbed his contribution. I couldn't help smiling. (That's John in the background with the blue shirt. That's Kathy with the blond hair - she's just whipped up 9 pies and several other desserts. That's Steve the jokester making Pat feel badly over taking a kid's money. All such love and fun. The best of humanity, all in this together. That's how we build community, thrive, and stay resilient.)

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Julie Ryan
Julie Ryan
Aug 31

Multiple pieces of truth, humor and advice in this wonderful post! Love the humor in the photo at the end and the hilarious YouTube video! The wonderful children's book, The Rabbit Listened, is another example of simply listening and being present, instead of giving unsolicited advice. Thanks, June, for introducing me to that fabulous book with a simple but powerful message also.😍

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drjunedarling1
Sep 01
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Also, Julie, your comment reminds me of a conversation I had with a teen yesterday. The young man is one that many of his friends like to talk to about their troubles. He is a good listener, but it stresses him to hear their problems because he thinks he has to provide a solution or help them fix their problems. It can be a real relief to people who care to know that their attention and presence can be the most valuable thing they can offer to a person who is suffering. Because, as Parker points out, the human soul doesn't want to be advised or fixed or saved. It simply wants to be witnessed - to be seen,hear…

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